Tories to pander to the lazy and Feckless?

02 June 2011 by fans64

 1stly might I say my bin gets emptied very week just like every body else in North Lincolnshire,why news outlets such as the BBC and our own local rag perpetuate the lie that weekly bin collections don't exist is beyond me.

It took me  a whole few seconds to work out what goes in which bin and after several years anybody who cannot figure out which bin to use and when to put it out only has top ask a neighbour or look down the street on bin day,it is not rocket science.

Why are why risking undoing all the strides forward in recycling the planets resources so a few thick  and lazy Chavs don't have to separate their rubbish into the relevant bins.

For heavens sake they have made it easy for them as their cardboard burger and pizza boxes can be placed in the burgundy bin with their plastic TV meal trays.

It's not as if there are any votes in it for the Tories either, as most of those who won't recycle are  certainly the type who say "there's no pint in voting" to hide their lazy mindless attitude.

Come on Telegraph report this matter accurately ,there are weekly bin collections.

For an outlet so protective of it's website you'd think the truth and it's reputation might be a concern


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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Glad 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
As much as it pains me to say it, I agree 100% with Fans.  If the government has handouts to give to local councils I can think of a great many things it should be spent on before increasing bin collections (Scotter House, anyone?)

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Poor

And the two contributors above obviously don't have young children. When my girls were younger we could fill a bin up with disposable nappies in no time. Although the contents get flushed away, the remaining nappy can cause quite a stink after 2 weeks.

Also we have had rat problems in my area and the abolition of the weekly (unrecyclable) waste collection doesn't help according to the rat catcher. We now also have to put our food waste in the non- recyclable bin due to the fact that the council has failed to provide covered composting facilities and DEFRA have found them out.

In other cities they introduced smaller bins for the non recyclable waste to prevent people abusing a weekly collection service. 

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
Don't get me started on lazy  land filling nappies,wash proper ones.Most of the parents I know have managed very well ,I hate it when the lazy use their children to try win an argument like some sort of ace up their sleeve.I live in a poor council area and have  no problem with rats and have heard of n stories of there being any,

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Poor

I have no guilt about using disposable nappies - bringing kids up is hard enough as it is and many frazzled parents will agree with me that the time saved is worth it.  If the manufacturers didn't put so much plastic guff in them they could be burned rather than buried.

I even remember Jonathon Porritt himself admitting live on air to some kids awkward question that he too had used disposable nappies. What's good for the goose and all that.

As for the rats there has been plenty of comment via letter or online at the ST from people with rat problems, from all areas and even when everything they put in the green bin is bagged.

As for weekly collections its all about economics and planning. Friends in Japan have DAILY waste collection services.

 

 

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
You should have guilt ,they are one of the countries biggest pollution problems,disposing of these can cost an average council £ million a year.How selfish are parents getting nowadays,they pollute the world with their cars as they never seem to allow their kids the pleasure of walking to school anymore.The amount of traffic at School times now is obscene.
 lazy nappies are just as sympton of a wider problem , parents have got into the trap in the last few years of thinking they are special,some kind of martyrs bringing kids into the world for the rest of us to endure,Labour caused it with all the extra child support , benefits and pandering to them  to win a few elections.Instead of parenting being the most natural and great thing to happen it's become a chore and with it they have all these excuses to be lazy and the bin collection moaning is just one part of showing how society and much of the rest of society has become far too reliant on every one els to blow their noses for them.Anyone who thinks it's too much hassle to open a different lid for plastic is a moron

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!

Fans64, I am unrepentant. I’m well aware of the fact that the planet has finite resources and there are a limited number of holes in the ground to bury waste. I take note of the “reduce, reuse, recycle” mantra and play my part accordingly, recycling my waste in the correct bin as requested, sending my unwanted items to charity or a reuse schemes. To reduce my emissions from my exceptionally high business mileage I bought a C1 for its low CO2 emissions. I buy electricity from a company that generates power from renewable sources. Zero waste is a utopian, unachievable ideal but trying to cut waste is a laudable objective. For the unrecyclable waste I do produce I (note the pronoun) pay council tax from my hard earned money so that the council (who generates no money of its own) can dispose of it on my behalf.

If there were tougher restrictions on what the manufacturers put into disposable nappies just as there are obligations on car manufacturers to make their cars more recyclable at scrapage time then the nappies would be truly disposable and the council wouldn’t have such a large waste bill. Also if waste management was opened up to competition in the free market we may get a more efficient, diverse service rather than the shambles provide by NLC where they urge the public to recycle food waste but fail to secure covered composting facilities for said waste.

And as I pay for the bin service I expect a WEEKLY collection of the stuff that rots, like food waste.

I didn’t bring children into the world because of the largesse of the Labour Party but in spite of it; in fact if it wasn’t for the excessive taxation of the middle classes to pay for the workshy and feckless then I wouldn’t need any of their handouts at all. As of next year under the Tories plans I’ll get bugger all for my kids anyway.

As for the school rush I wouldn’t know because I’m already at work by then smile
The fact that many Mums now also work means its simpler to drop the little darlings off on the way to work, setting them the good example of hard work and its rewards - cars, holidays etc. Some parents may have several children in different schools so they cannot escort them all unless they whiz them around in the car.

If you are a stay at home parent and want to organise “school trains”, or organised cycle to school runs then more power to your elbow. The bottom line is I don’t understand what fans64 has to endure for the sake of my children.

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 12 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
Manufacturers need people to stop buying their products ,but that would make your life a few minutes a day harder eh?
You get the weekly collection you crave ,why  continue to say you don't?
What makes you Middle class BTW?
Al parents make my working day harder,not just you and your kids.
The bin collection is good and is designed to make people aware and actually think,it's mainly chavs and selfish parents who think it's up to the council to do everything for them

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 11 months ago (1|0)Rated: Poor

The storing, washing and drying of soiled nappies does not take a few minutes a day which tends to imply you don't have kids.
When you're dead beat on your feet with sleep deprivation then you too would baulk at putting the time into unnecessary washing chores.
If there was a local nappy washing service we'd have taken use of it - there isn't so we didn't.
The fact that disposable nappies are hard to dispose of is a fault of the manufacturers’ not young parents.

Do you walk or cycle to work every day? Or do you take the bus or drive?
If you are a car driver or bus passenger are you guilty of misusing and wasting resources and polluting the environment?
Probably not - all activities have some impact on the environment and the issue is about the degree and whether there are more practical, economic and efficient alternatives.
The same applies to young parents - washing nappies uses up electricity, water and a lot of time and disposing of nappies costs them more money in council tax for sending to landfill.
If there was a pricing mechanism about the amount that a householder sends to landfill then filling your bin up with disposable nappies may make traditional methods more desirable but I doubt it.
It would however encourage householders who have yet to get the message to recycle their waste instead of throwing it all out in the green (un-recyclable waste) bin.

Originally we had a WEEKLY collection service of ALL waste; we now have a weekly PARTIAL collection service.
Many people recycled before the introduction of the separate bins, took their grass cuttings to the tip or composted their food waste.
For these people most of their waste was not recyclable and it now gets collected FORTNIGHTLY instead of weekly, increasing the chance of vermin.

For the chavs who don’t get it then it is up to you and local politicians to explain it to them – not patronise them for doing what they’ve been asked to do in the past.

Better to light a candle then complain of the dark.

You also failed to explain how other people's kids make your working day harder.

Write a new post and get it off your chest - I'd like a laugh :-)

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