Unair Tax Burdens illustrated with Beer

17 May 2011 by Black Flag

There has been much discussion recently about the cuts in government and council expenditure affecting the poor more disproportionately than the rich but the same said whiners fail to see the link between how we raise taxes and spend the money in the first place.

The current system penalises the wealthy which is a mistake. To illustrate I will use a joke doing the rounds on the internet and in some of the national press. Suppose that once a month, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all of them comes to £100.

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes and claim State benefits, it would go something like this;

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay £1. The sixth would pay £3. The seventh would pay £7. The eighth would pay £12. The ninth would pay £18 and the tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every month and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until, one day, the owner caused them a little problem. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your weekly beer by £20."

Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free but what about the other six men; the paying customers? How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?

They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33 but if they subtracted that from everybody's share then not only would the first four men still be drinking for free but the fifth and sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So the bar owner suggested a different system.

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing. The sixth man paid £2 instead of £3 . The seventh paid £5 instead of £7. The eighth paid £9 instead of £12. The ninth paid £14 instead of £18 and the tenth man now paid $49 instead of £59.

Each of the last six was better off than before with the first four continuing to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got £1 out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got £10!"

"Yes, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a £1 too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"

"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I only got £2? The rich get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"

So, the nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. Funnily enough, the next month the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came to pay for their drinks, they discovered something important: they didn't have enough money between all of them to pay for even half the bill. That's how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes do tend to get the most benefit from tax reliefs and reductions. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy and they just might not show up anymore..... Now how do I get back in Australia again?



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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Simon Brears 1 year ago (1|0)Rated: Poor
I am afraid to say tax flight is a bit of a myth. If you live in a country you have links to that place, your children will go to schools in the UK, you will have parents nearby etc. Not many people will be willing to sacrifice a whole life to save a few quid. A recent study in the US found a close to zero effect when New Jersey created a millionaires tax. There was no moves to other lower tax states. Funnily enough the only time the HM Revenue and Customs has seen people avoiding paying taxes in large numbers was when Nigel Lawson reduced the top rate of tax from 60% to 40%. Tax collectors believed that as the rate was lower people would be more inclined to pay rather than avoid tax. But the reverse happened, tax avoidance went up. Chiefly because Lawson's tax cut created a culture were paying tax became an intrinsically "bad thing". Also the premise of this 'joke' is wrong. Most taxation isn't progressive like income tax. Everyone pays national insurance and indirect taxation such as VAT is also levied on everyone, rich and poor. Council tax is a good example of the regressive nature of the UK tax regime. If you live in a Band C house and earn the minimum wage you pay the same tax on it as a millionaire in a Band C house next door. In effect this means that today the tax burden as a % of income falls heavier on the lower paid then the wealthy.

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 1 year ago (1|0)Rated: OK
Simon I disagree with your tax flight assumption; in the Seventies there were numerous rock stars that went abroad with their money and even after Geoffrey Howe and Nigel Lawson brought down the higher tax rates, artistic types still moved to the Republic of Ireland because of tax incentives. You fail to mention that a quarter of a million Brits leave these shores every year, usually for a better economic life � whether that be because of job prospects, freedom to run their own businesses or better tax rates. Also family ties don�t make any difference to companies - competition on Corporation Tax means many companies will relocate their Head Offices for tax reasons. You fail to mention that Geoffrey Howe�s tax cutting budgets (80% to 60%) raised more tax because people were prepared to pay the fairer rates. Your comments relating to other taxes are a red herring. NI is no longer capped since Bozo Brown removed the upper earnings limit, not everyone pays NI as many welfare claimants get NI credits along with Council Tax Benefit and Housing Benefits. You fail to mention that the hard working families on low incomes in your Council Tax example also get Working Tax Credits, maybe Child Benefits and Child Tax Credit, not to mention Council Tax Benefit and Housing Benefits. They may also be living in subsidised social housing. The basic premise behind the joke rings true - the people with the top 1 per cent of incomes pay very nearly a quarter of all the income tax and the top 10% of incomes pay more than half the income tax.

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