The High street has to die

10 August 2011 by fans64

 It's a mess of run down architecturally dull and inflexible buildings unable to attract the kinds of shops that people will flock to the town to use.Only the death of the High street will see these building finally put to rest ,then a total rejuvenation of the area can truly begin staring with a blank canvass so to speak.The various private entities who own the building will be forced to sell to developers and with strict and structured panning regulation for the area the town centre can be rebuilt hopefully avoiding the 60's/70's style paved precints and dull lego buildings.
The council can stop dreaming about Lake lands flooding good arable land and naturally make a thorough fare that channels people to the town and markets instead of it being so depressing.
 I noticed that very well  paid bloke who runs the council saying how knocking down the Multistorey could jump start the rejeuvination process of that area of town,forgive my ignorance but wasn't the picnic paving for the council staff and the arts centrer supposed to do that? That area is a dead no mans land and it's only significance seems to be for a few dozen council office staff to have a pleasant view.


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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Poor

"The various private entities who own the building will be forced to sell to developers..."

That's theft and I hope for your sake the council never wants to redevelop the area you live in.

Why not let the market (in this case retailers) decide instead of getting the state to redevelop the centre.

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
where in any of this do I say the council should pay for anything or buy anything?

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Black Flag 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Poor

Its implicit in the phrase "The council can stop dreaming about Lake lands flooding good arable land and naturally make a thorough fare that channels people to the town and markets instead of it being so depressing"  They need to spend money to do that.

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
reading between the lines sorry,I talk straight I don't write between lines.

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Glad 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
If the High St is going to die, it will. The council doesn't own the High St or the shopping centre, business does. If business wants it to fail, it will. It's out of various people's hands. M&S was profitable in Scunthorpe. It just wasn't profitable enough.

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
exactly it needs more business to give up the ghost,these units will then become almost valueless and ripe for redevelopment.I never said the council owned anything did I?

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Mick567 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
I see as usual fans64 misses the point totally. The top end of Scunthorpe High St is mainly covered by shops which were owned by the Co-Op. I for one would not want to lose the history of Scunthorpe because someone wants re build the high st I was hoping we had learnt lessons from the building of the precinct in the late60's / early70's

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
which point did I miss,I openly say the mishandled 60s 70s mess ,what is historic about these bland buildngs?
Old doesn't mean historic,.Mick when did history begin,10 years,20 years 30 years ago?
or are we making it all the time?
Your luddite attitude stinks and it is that attitude from various councils that has led to the problems we have today

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
http://www.visitscunthorpe.com/uploads/c0ea95e5e4497ded73347fcb2b617079-320x240.jpg click on the link and consider this,no matter how much you polish a turd it's still a turd

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[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By The Voice of Reason 9 months ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
The council/developers have had 2 attempts at trying to rejuvenate the town they failed the first time by omitting a roof over it all so that shoppers would feel warm and dry, but we didn't learn and we had another go and again forgot the roof, you don't have to go far to find shopping areas with roofs on and with the cost of parking (really encouraging the shopper) its probably cheaper to go there.
When I attempted to be a shop keeper NLC were proclaiming to have some of the highest business rates in the area, again another sure fire way to fill empty shops, after 3 years our rates doubled as did the rent (private) coupled with the car park charged going up annually even the free spaces in front of the shop remained vacant most of the day so we waved the white flag and quit.
On an aside point the 2 "retail" units built across Brigg road from the council offices, who built them I heard a whisper that the council did, now that was a sound investment unless its earmarked to be a crèche for the bloated council workforce its not going to be occupied any day soon is it even though its got parking the way the councils vendetta against the motor is running they will soon be shot on sight.
Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights

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