Are You Thinking Independently?

02 March 2011 by Paul Rhoades

In the run up to the local elections, I've had some emails from members talking about independent candidates and the conflict which may sometimes occur between party, voter and representative. We've seen some strongly argued cases on VisitScunthorpe in recent weeks that Party Politics can get in the way of local democratic representation in the community, and I've received a couple of emails from long time members of Visit Scunthorpe highlighting just how big an "independent" movement there is in the UK. Currently the council has three independent members, Councillor Don Stuart (Former leader of the Tory Group in the last Conservative run council), John Berry (another former Tory councillor who left the Tories shortly after the last general election) and Barry Briggs who hold the accolade of being the only independent councillor who actually stood as an independent in the last election! It is interesting to note however the apparent discontent within the local Tory group as both Councillor Stuart and Councillor Berry where both actually elected as Tories, and then only later defected from the local Tory group to then become "independents". It would seem within North Lincolnshire we have a very black and white choice politically, with the majority of supporters voting in Labour backed candidates. At the last Council elections there was one Liberal Democrat who was elected (Cllr Poole) but shortly after the Tories won the general election he abandoned his Liberal principals and crossed the floor to shore up the minority Tory group. So what does the future hold for independent candidates? And is there a case for independent candidates in North Lincolnshire? Well, with the current system of first past the post, the overall political make up of the council following this May's elections will probably be one of either Labour or Tory majority. However, running along side the Council Elections is also the AV Referrendum. This is just as an important democratic opportunity as that which is afforded to us by the local elections, allowing us to choose our representatives for the next four years. A.V. (Alternative Vote) allows us to select an Alternative Voting preference when casting our ballot. It means that politicians in the future will have to appeal to a broader spectrum, and it also allows independent candidates and smaller parties to get more of a share of the vote. For example, you may be a staunch Tory, and always vote conservative regardless of how vicious the government makes its cuts; However under AV you get the option to Rank candidates. This means you may put your Tory choice first, followed by perhaps a Liberal Democrat, or an independent candidate. It becomes apparent when looking at this that the A.V. System will essentially lead to a wider diversity of candidates being elected, and it will also strengthen the majority by which winning candidates are elected. It also means that MP's will have to appeal to a broader range of voters in order to attain that very important "2nd choice" position on the ballot. So back to May of this year, and the voting choices available to the public in North Lincolnshire. It's clear once again that the big stories are going to focus around the traditional Tory / Conservative battle grounds, most interesting in this round are going to be areas such as Axholme / Axholme North and Broughton and Appleby, both of which gained slim Tory majorities at the last elections. But what of Independent candidates? Well any of these key marginal areas could see a realistic challenge raised by any well established local figure wishing to stand as an independent. Currently there are a lot of Tory voter's who are incensed at the savagery of the cuts we are all facing, and as they begin to bite and more people loose their jobs a lot of traditional conservatives are going to become affected. Traditionally disillusioned Tories tend to follow single issue parties such as UKIP, but at a local level this is probably not a practical solution. Step in the independent, not just as a surrogate Tory, but its a solution which could work for some former Labour voters too who can not stoop to voting for the Liberal Democrats again. The ideology behind being an independent candidate is the representation of the community in which the candidate lives and works, as one of the people within it, without following any given political doctrinaire. This brings me on to a very interesting link sent in by a reader who suggested I take a look at the Independent Network. On their site there is a particularly interesting statement which I've quoted below: "...public frustration and disillusionment with career politicians and party politics demonstrates an urgent need for independent candidates elected to public office. Members of the public who support non-partisan politics are encouraged to support the efforts of the IN to get more independent politicians elected to public office." - (source) Having spent quite some time looking at this web site and reading the details and background to both the movement and the individual candidates I can't help but feel that at a national level the philosophy of these individuals is to be commended. It is difficult to see what positive impact an influx of independents would have locally other than to weaken an already shaky Tory position; however we would be very interested in meeting any one who is either standing, or considering standing as an independent candidate within North Lincolnshire, and would love to have the opportunity of posting their views on our web site to share with every one. If you are a candidate (for any party) then please do sign up for a free account at Visit Scunthorpe and post an article telling us where you are standing, on what platform, and why you think voter's should vote for you. Thanks to all readers who have already submitted links and comments prior to this article being produced, your efforts are as always appreciated.


If you would like add your own news article to Visit Scunthorpe, Login or sign up, its free and easy and you can start publishing your own content here, straight away.


Comments


Up vote this comment
Down vote this comment
[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Allan 1 year ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
Umm, Paul you made the comment that... "It is difficult to see what positive impact an influx of independents would have locally other than to weaken an already shaky Tory position" ...which is of course a very fair point. I would however point out that having more 'Indies' elected will of course also hammer any other long established party. That is the very point of it. If more seats go to 'Indies', there are much less available for the more 'traditional' parties. Thus deals are required to get council business through and there is less of the Red Mob Right : Blue Mob wrong (equally true vice-versa) mentality and the Council then has to start thinking about what it wants to do and how to do it. As a MOTR voter, I'm all for 'indies' and putting pressure on 'solid' seats. After all, at times, the 'current holders' of seats up and down the country repeatedly fail to cover themselves in glory. Just think about the RB articles in PE.

Reply   Report   

Up vote this comment
Down vote this comment
[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Thoades 1 year ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
Hi Allan, Thanks for the feedback and comments, much appreciated. I think you raise a valid point that more "Indies" would result in there being more pressure on some of the current holders around the country, certainly I think that areas currently held by Liberal councillors (and MP's) could face a serious challenge from independent candidates in the future as a lot of the middle of the road voters who voted LD last May will be feeling let down by present behaviour. It is unfortunate in some ways that we only have 3 independent candidates here in North Lincolnshire, and even more so that two of them are ex-Tories and only one of them actually stood as an independent at the last election. It will be very interesting to see if Cllr Stewart and Cllr Berry actually stand as independents come May 5th, and more so how they fair. Are you aware of any one else looking to stand as an independent candidate? If so do please let us know.

Reply   Report   

Up vote this comment
Down vote this comment
[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By Thoades 1 year ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
On Reflection, my last comment should have included all political parties, main stream or minority. So if you are reading this, and you are standing or thinking to stand as a candidate of any kind, mainstream, independent or as a member of a minority party do please, get in touch and post your details either on this thread, or create a new article of your own telling us where you are standing, why, and what your manifesto can bring to the people of North Lincolnshire... Go on, don't be shy!

Reply   Report   

Up vote this comment
Down vote this comment
[-]Comments hidden, click to expand. (1|0) By fans64 1 year ago (1|0)Rated: Great!
Personally I'd bar all organised political parties,they are not a force for good but a force for their own progression.Far too many local councilors and MP's argue for things that national parties have as policy yet have a detrimental effect locally.Towing the party line is one of our national shames

Reply   Report   

If you would like to leave a comment about this article, Login or sign up now


Please Note

Views expressed on this site are those of individual posters, who by making these posts indemnify Visit Scunthorpe and its operators of any legal responsibility or obligation.
Please respect the privacy of others, if someone gives you infomation that you use in your post, please don't identify them.

Complete site map of Visit Scunthorpe.Com

Add an Article

Site map

Mission Statement

Visit Scunthorpe is North Lincolnshire's only truly independent, non commercial, community news web site.

Established in January 2010 we have lots of members with a wide range of views who all contribute independently with articles of their own.

You won't find dozens of adverts covering our site, or some poor attempt to promote local business services under the guise of offering a community service.

Here on VisitScunthorpe we are interested in just one thing, building an online community which is representative of the people of Scunthorpe, North Lincolnshire and the surrounding area.

Paul. Founder Visit Scunthorpe.

How it Works

If you would like to have the ability to add articles and comments to Visit Scunthorpe then all you need to do is sign up with a valid email address for an account. This is free, your email address is confidential and we don't send out spam emails.

Once you've completed the sign up then you are free to post and comment on well... pretty much anything, we just have some basic civilised rules to prevent people from inciting violence, hatred or making individual attacks.

Business Directory for Scunthorpe, South Humberside

If you have a web site or directory which covers either independent news and blogging, or is related to North Lincolnshire or Scunthorpe then get in touch to set up a reciprocal link.

Choose your smiley!

smile suprised tongue big grin confused cool cry drool happy mad sad sleepy
×

You need to be logged in to do that!

Not got an account ? Click here to sign up.

×

Report Comment

State your reasons for the report and we'll take a look at the comment right away.

×
Page executed and compiled in 0.0493 seconds.